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07 July 2009 @ 02:07 am
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1. I'm rewatching Grey's Anatomy and I'm actually quite impressed! It has that wonderful balance of drama and comedy that I find most shows lack. Buffy will always live on in my mind as the show that did it best, but Grey's is definitely holding its own.

2. My cats aren't really mentioned much in this journal, but they're actually a very big part of my life at my mums house. They pretty much hate each other so I usually have one following my every move around the house (seriously, every move) and the other nowhere to be seen at any given point in time.

This is Roxy, he has very dog-like mannerisms. He doesn't like to sit on laps. He does like to bite me (playfully) at 5:00 every day to remind me to feed him. I like to headbutt him :P

This is Sammi, and in general he's pretty much a scaredy cat, I don't think any guest in our house has ever seen him. He loves to sit on my lap, especially at inappropriate times like when I'm iconning or tying my shoelaces. He likes to headbutt me (or wipe his nose on me, I can never tell one from the other :P)


I'm thinking of doing a voicepost soon, what should I include in it? (Specific words and phrases and answers to questions are all accepted)

4. I've been doing a lot of analysing (to an absurd degree) of what I consider to be the greatest icons of all time and from that analysis I've compiled a list of tips that should be able to bam any icon up a knotch

when picking caps, don't be afraid to go for abstract or blurry ones
Why restrict yourself to clean, crisp, obvious ones? Why not use one of the back of someone's head or where they're out of focus or half of their face is cut off? Using different caps that you normally would could inspire something different in you or inspire you to approach the icon in a different way than usual.

browse through your favourite iconmakers beforehand
There is nothing more boring than an unfocused iconmaker. Know who your inspirations are. Know what you're aiming to achieve. Emerse yourself in the brilliance you aspire towards.

analyse your favourite and least favourite things about the original image and then figure out a way to emphasise/distract from them
for example if you love somebody's lips, crop to emphasise their lips. If they've gone one eye mid-blink crop it out. If they've got excitingly bright red shoes, make them even more excitingly bright and red.

pick a theskilltester challenge and follow it
This sounds like I'm pimping my community but I'm really not. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention to my graphics lately, but ALL of my best things have been made for that recently and it's no coincidence. And I'm not saying you have to follow it to a tee if you really don't want to (obviously nobody can force your hand) but remember I was going to post this and bend the rules, but then I pushed myself and followed them to a tee and ended up with this. (Also if you don't like the current challenges stick around because through my mass icon analysis I thought of about fifty more challenges to do :D)

go to an extreme (with saturation and contrast or something) and then selectively pull back from it (e.g. reds only or darks only)
For those of you who talk to me on MSN (and that should be all of you, come on, add me already, I get really bored :P) you'll know that I've been preaching on a lot lately about how colours need to be controlled to look good. There are a lot of 'factory default' colours that everybody can achieve, but a lot of the great iconmakers have their own signature colours. By going to an extreme you're giving your icon the oomph it needs and by pulling back from it you're getting the colours exactly the way you want them. I'm sure I sound crazy but I swear it's the best tip on this list.

don't be afraid to make peoples skin unnatural colours (e.g. green, blue)

use textures and stocks
they're what separates a great icon from a fantastic one. They provide a level of randomness and unpredictability that can't easily be man-made

don't use a texture without an adjustment layer after it
it will integrate the icon into the picture and not just feel like it was added as an afterthought.

5. I started working on a moodtheme a long time ago when I was motm at iconplay and I'm still working on it to this day, but I just want it to be housed here in case drankmywar decides to delete the community for some reason :P
Feel free to contribute :D

accomplished - Heroes: 1x01 Hiro "yatta" blueymcphluey
aggravated - ANTM: 5x09 Bre angry photoshoot blueymcphluey
amused -
angry - Flight of the Conchords: 1x12 Bret dances when he's angry blueymcphluey
annoyed - ANTM: 5x09 Nic angry photoshoot blueymcphluey
anxious -
apathetic - Janice Dickinson looking plasticly emotionless blueymcphluey
artistic - My Name Is Earl: 2x08 Earl all play-doughey blueymcphluey
awake - BSG: 2x18 Six wakes up in pool blueymcphluey
bitchy - ANTM: 8x07 Dionne vs. Renee blueymcphluey
blah - Futurama: 2x08 Hermes + brainslug blueymcphluey
blank - Doctor Who: 2x07 Rose with no face blueymcphluey
bored - Buffy: season 7 Buffy with the pencils on her head blueymcphluey
bouncy - Flubber blueymcphluey
busy -
calm - Boston Legal: Alan/Denny in spa blueymcphluey
cheerful - Gilmore Girls: 3x22 Sookie 'yay, we're unemployed' blueymcphluey
chipper - Buffy: 5x18 Buffybot blueymcphluey
cold - Firefly: 1x14 River watching Wash/Zoe blueymcphluey
complacent - Amelie blueymcphluey
confused - Firefly: 1x11 River with the ball of food blueymcphluey
contemplative - Supernatural: 1x04 Sam blueymcphluey
content - Doctor Who: 2x01 Rose+10 on grass in newnewnewnewnewnewnewneenewnenwenwnenwen york blueymcphluey
cranky - Doctor Who: Rose sleepy blueymcphluey
crappy - Farscape: Aeryn after John's death mouthfullofdust
crazy - Futurama: 3x13 Roberto blueymcphluey
creative - Heroes: Peter glazed over because he's about to paint blueymcphluey
crushed - T:TSCC: 2x01 Cameron between cars blueymcphluey
curious - Firefly: River investigating gun/stick mouthfullofdust
cynical - VM: Veronica being... well, Veronica mouthfullofdust
depressed - Grey's Anatomy: 3x01 Izzie on floor secret0window
determined - Buffy: 7x22 Buffy rising from being stabbed by the first blueymcphluey
devious - Supernatural: 1x03 Dean with pen in mouth blueymcphluey
dirty - Firefly: 1x10 Saffron in rubbish blueymcphluey
disappointed -
discontent -
distressed - Firefly: 1x14 Kaylee blueymcphluey
ditsy - Alias": Sydney impersonating a cheerleadery person blueymcphluey
dorky -
drained - X-Men 3: Mystique unmutates blueymcphluey
drunk - Buffy: 6x05 Buffy can't handle liquor blueymcphluey
ecstatic -
embarassed - Coupling: 2x08 Jeff realising he strip-teased letsey_x
energetic - American Dad: (I can't remember the ep, but I have an awesome cap) running Stan blueymcphluey
enraged - Buffy: 7x19 Willow sees red blueymcphluey
enthralled - Buffy: 2x21 Dru hypnotising Kendra blueymcphluey
envious -
exanimate - Gilmore Girls: 4x07 Lorelai being a painting blueymcphluey
excited - SYTYCD: 3x20 Pasha at the beginning of the hiphop blueymcphluey
exhausted - Doctor Who: 4x11 Donna with only 10 minutes left to save the world blueymcphluey
flirty -
frustrated - Supernatural: Dean locked up when no one believes the demons are coming mouthfullofdust
full - Supernatura: 2x15 Sam's impression of hungry Dean blueymcphluey
geeky - Friends: 3x01 Leia letsey_x
giddy -
giggly -
gloomy - DLM: George moping at the Waffle House mouthfullofdust
good - Supernatural: Sam feeling better after resurrection mouthfullofdust
grateful -
groggy -
grumpy -
guilty - Futurama: Zoidberg trying to commit seppiku after breaking a ship in a bottle and blaming Fry mouthfullofdust
happy - Doctor Who: 10, I don't have a particular scene/cap in mind, but you know that crazy grin of his blueymcphluey
high - ANTM: 11x03 Marjorie photoshoot blueymcphluey
hopeful -
horny - HIMYM: 3x15 Lily+carpet blueymcphluey
hot - Doctor Who: 4x02 Donna in volcano blueymcphluey
hungry - Studio 60: 1x?? Amanda is proposed to with a stuffed gullet blueymcphluey
hyper - Futurama: 4x16 100 cups of coffee blueymcphluey
impressed - The Mask: his jaw literally dropping to the floor blueymcphluey
indescribable - The Office: 3x01 Jim's weird look at the camera blueymcphluey
indifferent - The Sarah Connor Chronicles: Cameron mouthfullofdust
infuriated - Doctor Horrible: "it's a brand new day" blueymcphluey
intimidated -
irate - Wonderfalls: Jaye smashes the Wax Lions mouthfullofdust
irritated -
jealous -
jubilant -
lazy -
lethargic -
listless -
lonely - Futurama: 3x22 Bender floating in space letsey_x
loved - Doctor Who: 4x06 fish people petting Martha blueymcphluey
melancholy -
mellow -
mischevous - Buffy: Faith getting arrested mouthfullofdust
moody - Wonderfalls: Jaye trying to reason with the Wax Lion mouthfullofdust
morose - Lost: Desmond realizes Charlie died for nothing mouthfullofdust
naughty - Doctor Horrible: sitting in his lair blueymcphluey
nauseated - Ginger Snaps: Ginger ate a dog mouthfullofdust
nerdy - Angel: 3x18 Fred with her glasses blueymcphluey
nervous - Big Love: Sarah finds out she's being followed by Albie mouthfullofdust
nostalgic - Buffy: 'Him' Xander remembering the love spell from S2 nonbeliever93
numb - Buffy: 7x03 Dawn paralysed blueymcphluey
okay - Futurama: 2x02 the neutral people blueymcphluey
optimistic - Parks and Recreation: Lesley blueymcphluey
peaceful - VM: Lily at peace in afterlife mouthfullofdust
predatory - Serenity: River kills a whole bunch o reavers blueymcphluey
pensive - Lost: Kate doing her daily 'gazing into the sunset' thing ofraindrops
pessemistic -
pissed off -
pleased - NCIS: Abby mouthfullofdust
productive -
quixotic - BSG: 1x13 Gaius/6 blueymcphluey
recumbent -
refreshed - Supernatural: Sam rejuvenated mouthfullofdust
rejected - Buffy: Willow finds out Xander and Cordy are dating mouthfullofdust
rejuvenated - Doctor Who: 1x12 rejeneration letsey_x
relaxed -
relieved - BSG: When Kara flies into the maelstrom mouthfullofdust
restless - Buffy: 4x22 sleeping scoobies blueymcphluey
rushed - Smallville: Clark superspeeding letsey_x
sad - Willow when Oz leaves blueymcphluey
satisfied - Angel: 5x15 Illyra after she takes over Fred's body mouthfullofdust
scared - The Inside: 1x01 Rebecca on train blueymcphluey
shocked - Doctor Who: 4x10 10 as light streams across his face blueymcphluey
sick -
silly - Kung Fu Panda with the pins in his back blueymcphluey
sleepy - Kyle XY: in his tub/bed blueymcphluey
sore - The Sarah Connor Chronicles: 2x01 Cameron blueymcphluey
stressed - The Sarah Connor Chronicles: Sarah mouthfullofdust
surprised - ANTM: 8x07 Natasha's photoshoot blueymcphluey
sympathetic - The Office: Dwight conforts Pam mouthfullofdust
thankful -
thirsty - Buffy: 4x02 milk blueymcphluey
thoughtful - Scrubs: JD daydreaming blueymcphluey
tired -
touched - Pushing Daisies: 1x01 Ned bringing someone back secret0window
uncomfortable - Futurama: "my only regret is that I have bonitis" blueymcphluey
weird - FotC: 1x10 Bret's drug drip mouthfullofdust
working - Dexter: at his day job mouthfullofdust
worried - Firefly: 1x10 Jayne re: Simon telling him he know what happened in Ariel drankmywar
Current Mood: jubilantjubilant
Currently Watching: Grey's Anatomy - 3x10 - Don't Stand So Close To Me
Michelle.flatlined on July 6th, 2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
YOU HAVE CATS! :D (Um- apparently I find this exciting?)
Joshblueymcphluey on July 6th, 2009 05:38 pm (UTC)
LOL and aren't they adorable! :P
I would take pictures of them more often, but they're REALLY camera-shy. I've never known anybody feline, human or otherwise to be so intimidated by a camera.
lice on July 6th, 2009 06:00 pm (UTC)
can we head butt each other
Josh: grey's anatomyblueymcphluey on July 6th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
why don't you have a default icon? It's sad :(
lice on July 6th, 2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
cause i don't have one that's good enough for be default..make me one, babe
Josh: fashion ; dornanblueymcphluey on July 7th, 2009 07:37 am (UTC)
what/who do you want?

??? :P
Laurenwhenitsquiet on July 6th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC)
Your cats are beautiful! As are those photos:) I definitely agree with a lot of your icon making tips, when I feel directionless I tend to pull up like 40 of my fav icon comms to get some feel of what I want to do. I'm just starting to work more with color and not be so worried about coloring people's skin.
Josh: torchwoodblueymcphluey on July 7th, 2009 07:48 am (UTC)
I'm finding that not worrying about peoples skin is kind of setting me free :P Worrying about having people be naturally coloured was kind of like a cage
Lauren: (wolvie) stand my groundwhenitsquiet on July 7th, 2009 09:19 am (UTC)
Worrying about having people be naturally coloured was kind of like a cage

It is! But I've decided if I want people to be purple than they will be:)
Carla: shannyn sossamon - lipsdrankmywar on July 6th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
OMG your cats are so cute, my cat river kind of looks like your cat sammi, but acts like roxy lol.

I will never in a bajilion years delete the community, also..... I was wondering if you wanted to put up a new layout? I like the current one, but I feel like the community needs a bit of a face-lift and I love the layout you have up for theskilltester ...... I'm thinking something dark with intense colors popping out like bright pink and green lol. ::is odd:: I know :P
Carla: FAKE - love confessiondrankmywar on July 7th, 2009 12:43 am (UTC)
OH, I'm going to put up temporary colorful layout... then if you want to change it, it'll be fine :D
Josh: movies ; herculesblueymcphluey on July 7th, 2009 07:51 am (UTC)
oh, how would you feel about my challenge 12 skilltester entry being the new community layout? It's kind of monotonous, but that'll make the icons pop, you know? Also it'll give me a reason to actually start coding it :P
Carla: resident evildrankmywar on July 7th, 2009 08:40 am (UTC)
Oh I really like it! Is there a way to maybe add a side bar? I just updated it, and added the rules and links and I'd like to keep it showing.
Josh: grey's anatomyblueymcphluey on July 7th, 2009 08:42 am (UTC)
hmm, is there any chance it could go in the profile page and I could just link to the profile page in one of the links up the top? See, I have a natural hatred for sidebars :P
Carladrankmywar on July 7th, 2009 09:13 am (UTC)
LOL, well that's fine :P I don't mind, as long as there's some way we can incorporate the links part of the side bar.... maybe one of those that goes across the top?
Carla: melissa george - shoulderdrankmywar on July 6th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
For flirty, I'm thinking that Eric promo for true blood, where he wipes the blood from his mouth and smiles.....
Josh: grey's anatomyblueymcphluey on July 7th, 2009 07:53 am (UTC)
hmm... but I haven't seen True Blood :(
Steph: celeb: hilarie burton looks happyharbourlight on July 7th, 2009 04:38 am (UTC)
You named a male cat Roxy? I'd be pretty grumpy too if I was him :P
Joshblueymcphluey on July 7th, 2009 07:54 am (UTC)
lol. in my defense I didn't choose that name AND they were both originally thought to be girls :P
Sammi was Samantha, but we couldn't think of a good male version of Roxy
jessiieeeeeeiladora on July 8th, 2009 12:29 pm (UTC)
First time I tried the guide I made a very ugly pink icon. Clearly I need to try again. ALSO. I didn't know you had cats! lovely pictures.

ps. there's another show you haven't seen. True Blood! :P
(Anonymous) on July 13th, 2009 12:06 am (UTC)

02. She is an insecure bitch, why some people shouldn't do concrit memes if they get butthurt. (http://talkofcake.livejournal.com/198058.html?thread=3039402#t3039402)
Christina: me- amber- i see a spaceshipfly_meaway on July 13th, 2009 08:26 pm (UTC)
While I like the idea of you trying to come up with tips, I do have to say that I think it's all incredibly based on your own personal preference. In the end, for everybody there are different icons and different styles that they consider the prettiest and the best icons. And to be honest, your list also sounds incredibly like you focused on just one style, the one that you probably prefer. While you might prefer colors and textures, that of course doesn't appeal to everybody and isn't something everybody loves. Luckily we're all not the same when it comes to things like that.

I do like the idea though, you making a list and I think that you do make some good points here. I'm not sure if you mean by browsing your favorite iconmaker beforehand that we should try to make icons like that iconmaker? It seems like you're saying that, but I don't know if that's your intention. Since that obviously doesn't sound good; we should all aim for our own style. But some other points are definetly true; thinking outside the box is fun. And in the end, iconmaking should be about that; just having fun and trying to put your emotions/everything into the icon. At least it's like that for me. I just go with whatever feels good at the moment; with what I feel like portraying and what feels good to me.

Edited at 2009-07-13 08:29 pm (UTC)
Josh: legend of the seekerblueymcphluey on July 14th, 2009 02:21 am (UTC)
it's all incredibly based on your own personal preference
yeah, they're pretty much all just tips for myself later on down the track when I lose focus :P
It's good if they help other people, but basically I just use this journal as a time capsule for myself a few years down the track.

I'm not sure if you mean by browsing your favorite iconmaker beforehand that we should try to make icons like that iconmaker
lol, no no, defintely not, I think it's essential everybody has their own style. I don't know about everybody else, I just think that there's something about looking at something awesome beforehand that inspires me to match that level of awesomeness. Maybe it's just my naturally competetive nature :P

Oh, and I noticed you were one of the people who weren't exactly a... uh... fan (to put it lightly) of my concrit of adina_mpj and I explained where I was coming from slightly better with this comment. I definitely wasn't trying to attack her.
Christina: lost- claire- don't want to be savedfly_meaway on July 14th, 2009 12:08 pm (UTC)
Ah I see, that makes sense. I just happened to see it linked somewhere so I figured you mostly made it for like everyone else instead of for yourself in the first place, so that's why I made that comment, since somehow it didn't seem like something everyone should strive for and something every can relate to, if that makes sense. And most of the times when people make these kind of posts, it's for everyone else so I didn't think of the fact that you wrote it more for yourself.

I think that it is, lol. Personally I have to say that looking at more talented iconmakers before I start making my own icons, gets me all intimidated. I just do whatever feels right when I open my programs and work with my pictures; I go with the emotion and all. And well I can understand your point of view and I can imagine that it works like this if you have a competitive nature, but I think most people just try to make the same kind of icons as the iconmakers they love if they do something like that, sadly.

That does explain it better, yes. But I do have to say that it still sounds very much like you think you own the truth when it comes to what good icons are and what not. You might not mean it like that, but it still sounds like that, if I'm completely honest. Because I have to say that for instance in this case I disagree with you a lot. Now I'm not extremely familiar with the person's icons, but to say that she might be wasting her talent is taking it quite far, you know? (And quite frankly it's something I don't feel at all; I think the icons are definetly very unique and this person really has an own style.) Just because she might have changed styles slightly and they don't appeal as much to you anymore, doesn't mean that she's still not good and that she's wasting her talent. I think that was also my concern with your overall comment and why I reacted to you so strongly there.

I happened to come across some of your criticism to the meme in general and while they are very extensive and you make some good points every now and then, it seems like most of the time it's incredibly based on your own preference and not so much on the general aspect of iconmaking, if that makes sense. Like you might enjoy more color and you might not like brownish coloring, but that doesn't mean that color is the only good way to go and that color is what makes the quality good. That's all very personal and it should stay that way. It's like, you might love textures, but that doesn't mean that you can only make really good icons if you use textures. So that's why I reacted like that towards your comment. I realize you weren't trying to attack her, but I guess it did feel like that, you know?
Josh: movies ; amelieblueymcphluey on July 15th, 2009 08:23 am (UTC)
it still sounds very much like you think you own the truth when it comes to what good icons are
I've always been taught that if you're going to say something, say it with conviction; if you don't sound like you believe in what you're saying then nobody else is going to be able to. And that fact coupled with the fact that in a meme like that, an opinion is all anyone can give is probably where that comes from. I don't believe in wasting time pointing out the obvious fact that the things I'm saying in an area when everything being said is an opinion are my opinions.

Just because she might have changed styles slightly and they don't appeal as much to you anymore, doesn't mean that she's still not good and that she's wasting her talent
Again, it was just an opinion. I figured the least I could do would be to give her the opportunity to hear how I really felt. Some people actually really like that kind of concrit and some people don't and you can never tell how any one person is going to react. I just offer up what I have to say and if they want to ignore me then that's completely up to them because it wouldn't be right to not give that kind of feedback to anyone in case some people didn't like it, would it?

you might not like brownish coloring
Oh no, I've got nothing against brown. Check out my layout, it's pretty much all brown :P Some of my favourite icons ever are brown (x x) and actually, just recently my icons were criticised for being too brown :P
I just think that some people work better with certain colours and styles than other people and the people and the reason I told certain people to stay away from browns is because I believe their strengths lie elsewhere.

And thanks for discussing the problems you had with my concrit, by the way. I think people have a tendancy to make assumptions about the kind of person I am and what I stand for, so thanks for giving me a chance to explain myself. :)
Christina: me- anna- followed our riversfly_meaway on July 15th, 2009 09:27 am (UTC)
Well I always believe that there is usually more to the person that meets the eye and so often assumptions are completely wrong. Not all the time of course. But yeah, we are all different too and we might just assume things when the person might not have meant it like that. So that's why I figured I would say something about it instead of just thinking things and assuming things; that's not really fair, I think.

As for your first response; I understand that. I will admit that I think slightly differently in the sense that I have perhaps a more careful use of phrasing and I would let it be known more that it is indeed my opinion and I try to show that, but I get your point of view as well and I honestly didn't think of it like that. I think that because you just happen to have a different way of looking at things and making those comments, it might seem like you think you own the truth, but it's good to hear that you don't. And I can understand your point of view now even if I would still do it differently ;) But hey that's why we're all different, right?

Maybe not. I do still think that you have to be a bit more careful and considerate when giving constructive criticism as it can easily be taken as an insult, like with your comment. But you're right; you can't know beforehand what the person prefers so just doing it in a way that feels right to you is how you should just go about it. I do think that in this case though it might still be more of a thing where you don't like the icons anymore instead of a case where the iconmaker got worse; I know I experience that a lot too with iconmakers.

Ahh okay. And see I really thought you had a problem with some kind of brownish coloring, lol. Good to know you don't though ;)

And since we're having a mature and honest conversation, I figure I'd ask; do you enjoy making icons? Like really enjoy making icons? The emotion of making icons and just doing what feels right to you? I ask because sometimes it seems like you're more busy with how icons are suppose to look and how they look good and all that, that I wonder if you actually enjoy making them and if you also just make what feels right to you emotionally instead of focusing on the technical aspect of it.
Joshblueymcphluey on July 15th, 2009 11:42 am (UTC)
do you enjoy making icons?
Oh I absolutely do! I love the thrill of creating something and having it join a collective of designs I can call my own is incredible. And as lame and self-involved as it sounds, just looking through my userpics fills me with joy, because each one is it's own beautiful little world and being able to create something that gives me that feeling is fantastic :D

I ask because sometimes it seems like you're more busy with how icons are suppose to look and how they look good and all that
I look at it as if each little 100x100 square is a painting and we're all painters. So I'm always analysing other iconmakers and figure out why and how their icon are so amazing in hopes that I'll be able to use that knowledge to improve the quality of my own icons, in the same way that an art student or a design student would do at school in order to improve their quality of their work

what feels right to you emotionally instead of focusing on the technical aspect of it
It's a hard line to walk because the tools we're using aren't based on emotion, they're based on math. Curves works the way it does because of a formula, colour burn layers work the way they do because of a formula, it's all mechanical. Great icons exist because of technical reasons, however an amazing icon can't exist without passion coming from the maker. Lately I don't even bother working on a cap unless I am completely invested in it, because otherwise this happens.
Christina: actress- summer- climbing my way backfly_meaway on July 15th, 2009 11:57 am (UTC)
however an amazing icon can't exist without passion coming from the maker

Yes, that is what I mean. You can be so busy with how it should look best, what best to use, but if there's no passion behind it, if you don't enjoy doing what you do then the icons won't look good at all, no matter how good the techniques and all of that is.

Thank you for answering my somewhat really nosy question ;) I was just really curious and I'm glad to hear that you do enjoy making icons and I totally get what you mean with those other things. Again we might have different ways of looking at icons and iconmaking, but I get what you mean. And I'm glad to hear you do enjoy making icons :D